If you take "financial experts" on "business channels" seriously then you are not taking your money seriously....
O Ashuji
Accepting Ignorance in market is a great and first step towards a successful trader/investor. There are no rules in markets because human emotions are not driven by rules and that is precisely the reason if mind is not adaptable, money will not be made consistently. However, here we have some comedians who consistently apply same methodology all the time, expecting same results. Concepts like Average P/E, historical P/E, Relative Valuation, etc are applied all the time depending on the mood of these so called experts. When nothing works for rationalization, say cheese with liquidity. I will say Time and Again....reading and understanding the way price behave is far more important than understanding the reasoning of its movement. Idea is to make money and not intellectual masturbation.
Most experts on business channels intentionally or unintentionally believe in "FOOLING ALL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME". These guys have absolutely no accountability of their views. Just like cautionary warning with smoking, expert views should have disclaimer "listening to these experts is injurious to wealth, listen at your own risk"
Below I will just give one glaring example of one such expert....and point how just because price damage happened explanation changed
For Further on Uselessness of Fundamental Analysis....
http://speculationanart.blogspot.in/2013/03/analyzing-price-moves-fundamentally-is.html
Sanju Verma sees Sensex at 22K by Mar 2013, suggests bets
(12 Dec 2012, CNBC)
Q: Is this an opportunity to buy into the dip after Friday’s
cut or are you getting a bit cautious on trade?
A: We are not cautious as
yet. We are looking at the market inching towards our fiscal year-end target of
22,000 by end of March 2013. Given that we have rallied 20 percent plus in
dollar terms this calendar year, having roped in more than USD 21 billion by way
of FII flows, one easily starts thinking that maybe the liquidity driven rally
has run its course, so has the valuation based rally The market, on trailing
earnings, is not looking cheap. Assuming an EPS of Rs 1,400 for FY14, the
market is trading at about 15.5-16 times, mid-cycle valuations.
I think the second
quarter FY13 numbers clearly told one story. While top-line growth may have
come down from 20 percent plus, which we have been used to seeing over the last
one year to a dismal 14 percent, the more important and optimistic scenario was
thrown up at the EBITDA level.
BSE Sensex (Indian Market) was then at 19255...and this expert believed at about 15.5-16x, it was mid cycle valuations.
Fast Forward.....3 Months down the line which is long term for these experts....comedy circus begins...
Indian equities overvalued; focus on rupee: Sanju Verma (4 April 2013, CNBC)
3 MONTHS BACK TARGET WAS 22000 BY MARCH 2013....WE ARE IN APRIL 2013 AND MARKET IS FOUND EXPENSIVE AT 18500....BEST PART IS THERE IS REASONING FOR BOTH CALLS.....!!!
Q: Do you think we are headed for a big waterfall slide in
the market and if yes what could the extent of the correction be?
A: We need to take a hard
call and look at fundamentals on the ground before we decide to be bullish or
otherwise (sorry I was flying on air on 24th Dec 2012). The screen is screaming red at this point in time. It is a sea of
red. I may be called a brave heart to give a bullish call.
The macro scenario is
certainly not looking rosy. The only reason S&P 500 has moved up at today’s
levels is because the S&P is trading at something like 16 times giving an
earnings yield of 6.25. Given that the risk free rate in the US is just about
one percent or even lower, it basically means that the equity risk premium for
the S&P 500 set of companies is just about 5.25.
This indirectly means
that equities in the US are grossly under-valued because the higher the equity
risk premium, the more under-valued the equities class for that given
geography. If I use the S&P 500 rally as a benchmark and extrapolate the
workings into the Indian context today at sub-19000, the market on one year
forward, assuming that the EPS for FY14 will be in the region Rs 1300 or Rs
1325, the PE works out to something like 13.5-14 times which gives an earnings
yield of just about 7 percent.
If I were to compare
the 7 percent earnings yield with our risk free rate which is the government
securities (G-Sec) rate which is close to 8 percent, then the equity risk
premium for the Nifty set of companies is actually a negative 0.86.
This means that equities as a class in India are grossly overvalued.
WOW......What can I say....
It needs to first get
into the positive territory with respect to equity risk premium even before
calling for a buy on Indian equities as an asset class. That’s the absolute
bearish view which takes into account all the negatives; be it with respect to
the current account deficit (CAD), poor earnings trajectory and a macro which
seems to be flip-flopping between the good and the bad.
However, I am of the
firm belief that USD 25 billion that we made through FII inflows last year had
nothing to do with macro. It had even lesser to do with earnings. What it had
to do with was just liquidity and liquidity alone fueled the 20 percent plus
rise in dollar terms that we saw in the broader indices. So, the question that
we should be asking is will liquidity continue to flow in or will there be a
stop there for good.
We have pulled in on
the equities front more than USD 8 billion in this calendar year. Will it
continue? I think rather than getting carried away by the stock market, one
should look at the currency market. I have always maintained that currency
markets are nimble footed and a precursor of things to come in the stock
markets. I am surprised that despite a 6.7 percent CAD number for the December
quarter, the rupee has by and large been steadfast. Even in the non-deliverable
forward market, rupee is trading at just about 55.25/USD or 55.35/USD at the
worst. I think that is a positive.
Over the last one
year, on a year-on-year (Y-o-Y) basis, rupee has depreciated all the way from
50/USD to 54/USD which is a depreciation of 7 percent. Over the last two years,
rupee has perhaps depreciated by more than 20 percent but the point is that
despite huge amount of negative news on the forex front, the rupee has held
steady which means that there is something that you and me don’t know.
It is so scary to follow these guys because they have explanation for everything without an iota of responsibility/accountability.....
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